CONCERNING 2 CORINTHIANS 12:1 – 4 (and among others)

I agree that what Paul’s vision reflects about the true Christians in God’s organization of today or in the last days. The man that was foreseen by Paul that caught into “third heaven” firstly refers to the anointed Christians then secondly to the Jehovah’s Witnesses who are both in the highest level of their spiritual consciousness or their position of their being in the superlative degree in spiritual matters since Daniel foreseen the vision that in the last days the truth will shine and become abundant (compare Daniel 12:3 – 4:10). The unutterable words which heard by him (the man) which are unlawful to speak by a man would mean about the sealed words of God which would be finally revealed to the anointed Christians specifically with the Faithful and Discreet Slaves of Jesus who gives the spiritual food at proper time. The revelation of God’s will which symbolizes by the seven thunders will only be revealed at the time when God will allow it to perceive by the anointed Christians and it already happened and continues to happen since we have lots of revelations about the deeper things of God. “But I believe there would be a final revelation or revelations that will be revealed by God through the Faithful and Discreet Slaves of Jesus before God will act against his judgment to all nations.” (This statement is not the general thought of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.) I speak through what the context says as the previous commentators also said. I hope that I have expressed this with an understanding heart through God’s help.

This vision of Paul would not mean of the so called “rapture” of a man then went through literal heaven which is being believe by some religions since no man with flesh and blood can inherit the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 15:50) and that mortal cannot possess immortality (as spiritual being) unless it dies (1 Corinthians 15:36, 42 – *44). Those anointed Christians who will live in heaven will possess the likeness of the Son of Man (Jesus) as he died and become spiritual being (1 Corinthians 15:48 – 49; Romans 8:29). What about 1 Corinthians 15:51 and 1 Thessalonians 4:17, does it convey of the so called “rapture” which would change the bodies of mortal into spiritual being? Again, from the Scriptures above it cannot happen. Notice the words said “we will not asleep on death” which would mean that those anointed ones in the last days will not be on the grave for a long time but rather in an instant as of the last trumpet sounds (v. 52) the dead will be raised and become changed. Paul believes that in order to change their bodies then they have to resurrect (v. 52 – 53; 1 Thessalonians 4:14). If you could notice, to whom the trumpet used for?  1 Thessalonians 4:16 speaks that the trumpet was used in the resurrection of those in union with Christ namely the anointed Christians and in 1 Corinthians 15:52 still the trumpet is used to those who are in union with Christ who will be resurrected and even Paul said they (though it refers to the last anointed Christians) will be changed in an instant, still they are part of those who will be resurrected (see the whole context of v. 52). When did the resurrection started? The start of resurrection started on the presence of Jesus as what said in 1 Corinthians 15:22 – 23 and it proves that this presence is not on the day when Jesus will come on earth to give the judgment of God (Armageddon) but it was seen that the resurrection of those who first asleep on death was when Jesus is already ruling in heaven (compare Daniel 2:44; Revelation 11:15 and Revelation 6:11 *note in the verse: until the complete number of slaves were fulfilled i.e. the 144,000). The resurrection of the dead is on the presence of Jesus which is proved by Revelation 6:11 in relation to Jesus ruling in heaven as the appointed king of God (compare also Philippians 3:11) Thus, the last trumpet (note at the time of the last trumpet which would mean not only on a single particular time) in 1 Corinthians 15:52 that would sound will be until on the Great Tribulation which the last anointed ones (beginning of the last days) will see (see Matthew 24:34) or until Jesus will come on earth (not to be seen literally) to give the judgment of God in all nations. Also notice that the seventh trumpet (last trumpet) marks the heavenly rulership of Jesus (Revelation 11:15) and as the resurrection of the anointed ones as stated in 1 Corinthians 15:52 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16 which is also a mark of their rulership as heavenly kings (Revelation 20:4 – 6). Again, Romans 8:29 states that those who are first recognized by God according to God’s purpose will be conformed to the image of the Son of God and it would only be possible to possess the same image of the Son of God if those first recognized ones will undergo the same process as Jesus did but not as of the literal process of the death and resurrection of Jesus but the same as he died physically [as perfect and holy] then also resurrected spiritually [as perfect and holy] – 1 Peter 3:18 (compare Matthew 5:48 and 1  Peter 1:15 – 16; Revelation 20:6). Also notice 1 Corinthians 15:46 speaks first of the physical then afterwards spiritual. Although the first speaks of Adam as the physical man and the second speaks of Jesus as the spiritual person we can see that it refers also to those who have heavenly hope since Jesus became physical man then afterwards became spiritual person again. What would this indicate? This would mean that since God planned to buy people from all nations who will be on heaven then Jesus must become a physical man in order those who have bought by God will also become spiritual beings in the same way as Jesus did (Psalms 68:18; Ephesians 4:8 – 10; Philippians 3:21). Actually, 1 Corinthians 15:49 in relation to Romans 8:29 is the best clue as of how those who have heavenly hope will acquire their spiritual body. It says just as they acquire the image of the one who is made from dust (Adam) then they will acquire also the image of the one who is from heaven (Jesus). This means just as the mortal body is subject to die because of the original sin of Adam (Romans 5:12) then it could be raised as spiritual body just as of Jesus resurrection – the first among the new creation of God as spiritual beings (Colossians 1:18; Revelation 1:5). Notice Colossians 1:18 states about Jesus “to become first in all things”. It would only give its true definition if Jesus is the first among those spiritual beings brought into heaven who were men and that those men bought by God in all nations who became spiritual beings will die first and be resurrected afterwards as spiritual beings. Thus, those men who will be taken from earth and would become spiritual beings on heaven would only be part of Jesus’ class (the class of kings) as Jesus is the first among that class if they really died and resurrected as spiritual being. To be a member of that class one must have qualifications that will give him a right to become a bonafide member of that class and that is through death and resurrection along with by being born again through the Spirit of God (i.e. as called by the Spirit of God and not by the will of man; see John 1:13; Romans 9:10 – 11; 16) and of the water (as of baptism).


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